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« on: January 28, 2010, 05:30:48 pm »

Dear fakeheaphones.com visitors and trusted regulars,

After my scathing remarks about my case with lsmart100, and after he continued to press me for positive feedback, I've actually asked him to reconsider his activities and to be someone we can all trust. As visitors and regulars to fakeheadphones.com, we are all looking for one thing, someone we all know and trust to sell us genuine headphones. I've asked lsmart100 to do exactly that, to be our main supplier of genuine headphones. I'm going to email Sennheiser and ask for their help.

Let me show you the emails I've sent. I'll show you the most recent of our communications.

I hasten to add that setting up an account will take time. I can only do my part. I won't ask for your trust until I know I can trust lsmart100 myself 100%. 

Quick update

lsmart100 is trying to set up selling these 8GB touch screen MP3/MP4 players and has taken his fake Sennheiser CX's of his listings. But .... I think in the next few weeks I'll need soneone to test one of these touch screen MP3/MP4 p[alyers to test ease of use, reliability, functions. I may send one out to you, so keep posted.

http://electronics.shop.ebay.com/iPod-MP3-Players-/73839/i.html?_catref=1&_fln=1&_ipg=&_ssn=lsmart100&_trksid=p3911.c0.m282[/img]

This is the player lsmart100 is selling. I've asked if he can get hold of the smaller player as well. Of course, not living in the UK (like me) has it's benefits and lsmart100 is sellign these at about 10% discount from the UK price.

quick this link to see the players:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/KT9s9txmkAs&amp;hl=en_GB&amp;fs=1&amp;" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/KT9s9txmkAs&amp;hl=en_GB&amp;fs=1&amp;</a>




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Greetings from the UK XXXXX,
 
The problem I have is that I have many, many people who want to buy Sennheiser cheaper than the original price. We all want a bargain.... a good price deal, but for me and my contacts, they also want the genuine article.
 
Without being insulting I know of the manufacturing in China. I also know that Sennheiser had an agreement with a manufacturer in China, however that relationship went bad and Sennheiser cancelled the deal, but the factory continued to produce sub-standard products.
 
I know there are plenty of fake Sennheiser, Bose, Bang & Olufsen, ipod, Audio Technica (Audio Technica are not that well known in the west). ... the list could go on.
 
I know that you've fallen for the trap of selling such counterfeit goods to make a quick buck whilst you go through University.
 
ebay has hundreds; hundreds of people like you selling fake Sennheiser headphones (as well as other makes). I'm also aware of online warehouses that sell this kind of counterfeit gear to people like yourself, who then go onto sell the stuff on ebay.
 
I'm a headphone fan. At one time I had over 70 pairs of headphones, now I only have around 30 pairs, most over £100 ($100 that should be), and I have many headphone amps as well.... so i know and love my headphones.
 
ebay doesn't need another seller like you selling fake gear. What people want is the real thing. What I want is the real thing. Don’t be like everyone else... just selling fake gear, sell the real thing, that will set you apart from all of your competition that i know are selling just the same fake gear as you.
 
Now, selling gear is not my thing, I prefer to review headphones. I don't have the space to have the stuff in my house; neither do I want to get caught up in all that business of going to the post office and shipping the items.
 
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I don't know how you get started in the business of selling (fake) Sennheiser products, I don't know how you go about getting a supplier, but I know that If I had someone who would sell the genuine Sennheiser products, I can send so much business to such a person.
 
If you could get hold of Genuine Audio Technica ATH-ES7 headphones fro example, this would be very good. I don't know how you would go about doing this. I guess you'd have to call Audio Technica and start some sort account.
 
 
What I'm trying to say is that people do far better being honest than dishonest.
 
I need someone on ebay to sell the real thing. If that person can prove that they're selling the real thing, I could write many reviews, and send people to that ebay seller. At the moment I can't trust you. I wish I could send people to you, and not just for £10 Sennheiser headphones, but directing people to buy headphones that are usually counterfeit.
 
B&O A8, Audio Technica ATH-ES&, ATH-ESW9, ATH-ESW10, ATH-ON3, ATH-FWS 3 & 5, Bose Triport IE, Sennheiser CX, Sennheiser CX. Even if you could deal with one of these headphones, a genuine pair of headphones, say you choose to sell the ATH-ES7; I would be prepared to review them and send so much traffic to you. But they'd have to be genuine.
 
Everyone is selling counterfeit gear, and I know you have a lot of competition. Be different, sell the genuine headphones, and build real trust with people.
 
Look at Fang who owns and runs head-direct.com
 
http://head-direct.com/product_detail.php?p=38
 
Fang gets so much respect, because he sells good genuine products. Actually he's manufactured his own gear, that's how much of a reputation he's built up.
 
I’ve typed "RE0" into the search filter on head-fi.org. It has come back with over 10 pages of search results.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/search.php?searchid=11181291
 
That could be you. When people type in "CX300" you could have 10 pages of search results, all pointing at you, because you're brave enough to be different and sell the real thing. Who do you think gets more respect and more business, you or Fang at head-direct?
 
Do you get 10 pages of search results? Do you get 10 pages full of people talking about your product or talking about you as a trusted seller?
 
I know how hard it is at Uni, I'm a Uni student as well.

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Like I said, I'm not in the business of selling, and I don't really want to get into that side of things, it doesn't interest me, but you are. See if you can contact, AT (Audio Technica) or even Sennheiser, and see what you have to do to start and account with them.
 
Be different, goodness knows ebay needs someone to sell the real thing.
 
Questions:
 
1) Have you heard a pair of Genuine CX500 next to your CX500's? Yours sound dreadful.
 
2) Try if you can to get back to me with the genuine item. Even if they were £30-35, I'd buy a pair from you, review them and check them to make sure they're the real things, then I can send web visitors to you via a link.
 
If after a month or so, you can say to me: Matt, it's not working, I’m not making as much money, I’m going back to selling ... the old stuff (counterfeits).
 
But if it does work, would you carry on to expand your range?
 
3) I don't know who your customers are, but I target the U.S. and UK market. Think about supplying to that market instead of an Asian market.
 
4) Remember that people are looking for a cheap deal, but there is a niche market of people like me looking to pay for the real thing and they will pay. So are you willing to supply the genuine headphones to them?
 
You say I'm passionate. When it comes to headphones, yes I’m passionate. Just imagine if I'd bought 73 pairs of headphones (27 Sennheiser) from you. And I’ve done all that in the last 3 years.

Pictures of most of my current gear. Like I said; at one point I had over 70 pairs of headphones.
 
http://img37.imagefra.me/img/img37/2/1/27/captain73/f_1cebsvipu99m_9d1d5b0.jpg
 
http://img38.imagefra.me/img/img38/2/1/27/captain73/f_1dqq5pf9l4im_1333ad1.jpg
 
http://img01.imagefra.me/img/img01/2/1/27/captain73/f_1cebsvipu99m_13f028f.jpg
 
http://img01.imagefra.me/img/img01/2/1/27/captain73/f_1l4vnndu61xm_d823b17.jpg
 
(Below) Audio Technica ATH-ON3 and fake counterpart (fake on left)
 
http://img38.imagefra.me/img/img38/2/1/27/captain73/f_26inq46cpapm_5a13093.jpg
 
High-end gear including Grado SR60, Alessandro MS-1, and Sennheiser HD650. I've got a pair of Grado SR325is's on the way.
 
http://img01.imagefra.me/img/img01/2/1/27/captain73/f_1q36ejbpljgm_bae0d4f.jpg
 
http://img01.imagefra.me/img/img01/2/1/27/captain73/f_1l4vnndu61xm_26f90e9.jpg
 
http://img38.imagefra.me/img/img38/2/1/27/captain73/f_1vgpyfescwnm_4849e1d.jpg
 
Headphone amps
 
http://img01.imagefra.me/img/img01/2/1/27/captain73/f_1rt9kxv2c61m_62b8f30.jpg
 
RSA amp
 
http://img37.imagefra.me/img/img37/2/1/27/captain73/f_1gknes1uklfm_d7d874f.jpg
 
http://www.raysamuelsaudio.com/products/hornet
 
http://www.stereophile.com/headphones/906ray/#
 
The RSA (Ray Samuels Audio) is the baby of the range, the cheapest... I think at $350
 
I think that's enough to get on with.
 
 
I do have the Fiio E3 and E5 amps.
 
http://www.fiio.com.cn/en/showproduct.asp?id=309
http://www.fiio.com.cn/en/showproduct.asp?id=301
 
This is new, I haven't seen this

http://www.fiio.com.cn/en/showproduct.asp?id=316
 
Why not look into selling Fiio gear. I've got E3 and E5 amps (lost the E5), but they're cheap and they sound brilliant. You sell, I’ll write articles, then link to your ebay shop.
 
Look around for something genuine, then tell me about it, and I’ll try and help.
 
Forget this fake stuff; be head and shoulders above the rest. Be someone, people trust and respect. Forget this "my suppliers told me they were genuine" excuse. Forget sending people emails asking for "positive" feedback. When people know and respect you, you'll get the feedback and some!!
 
In my case, if I know you're selling good stuff, I can place so many links and banners to your ebay page. But only if I know you're doing the right thing.
 
 
Think about it my friend.
 
Kind regards
 
Matthew Scarlett
 
Art student how is taking a year out.
 
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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2010, 05:33:41 pm »

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Dear Matthew,
 
Well noted and tks a lot.
 
I spent almost one hour to review what you said,it is quite helpful,I think it is quite enough to build a very professional store.
 
But so far seems very heavy for me.
 
I am thinking want to go step by step,I want to do for Sennheiser first  and also with my MP4 Player ,Lisse Brand,pls visit here http://www.lisse.co.kr .
So make a store and try to sell earphone and player  first.
 
To sell things  on internet,as I know,even I can get goods,but need a license from Senn to sell all over the world,can you get it?
 
And I review some of the link you offer to me,they sell Senn at USD45 for CX300 sth like this,I not think they are selling real goods.
In fact,some Senn OEM one is very very similar to origianl one,the one I sent to you is not so good,I have to admit that.
If for that kind of quality,acceptable to sell?
We will sell at reasonable  price,will not cheat person.
 
Finalize  our disussion:
 
1.Do for 100% original,I try to find goods at nice price,you try to get on line license,do from Senn first.
2.Do for very similar Senn ,if you think ok.
 
It is not so good to let you do free working,I think we can cooperate based on commision base.
 
As you check lsmart A./C,I now delete to sell eaprhone,in fact.
In order to make A/C with nice repuation,need you to do me a favour,you just write via ebay system to tell: I want to change feedback from negative to postive .then can change.
 
Tks
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2010, 05:37:14 pm »

email i sent just now.


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Like I said, I can back you up with reviews of whatever your selling and I can send traffic to you.
 
I can create banners to your ebay page, and of course because of ebay affiliate program I will make a small commission from doing that, without any expense to you. I don't know how to become a 'seller' on ebay. Sure, I've sold the odd bit here and there, but I much prefer reviewing than selling.
 
https://www.ebaypartnernetwork.com/files/hub/en-US/index.html?alt=uk
 
I don't even know how you guys get started in selling the goods you do. All I hear is the word "supplier" "supplier". I'm sure Sennheiser, and especially Audio Technica have an official distribution network.
 
All I know is, that my visitors are begging for the real thing, and the real thing is in short supply. Even from the likes of amazon.co.uk and Play.com (almost as big as amazon.co.uk) counterfeits have found their way into these large online sites ... which is not good. If they can get caught out any shop can get caught out.
 
The problem is that the fake CX's I got from amazon were nearly £30.
 
Like I said, it might be the case that you don't do much business selling the genuine gear, and so you might say to me: Hey Matt, this isn't working out.
 
I would encourage you to sell the Fiio amps to compliment your gear. There are reviews and after review of how good these little amps are. I love them. I can also write reviews for you as I still have my amps around.... somewhere!!
 
The thing is, even selling the stuff you had; I know there is a lot of competition, price wars. I'm not looking for cheap-stakes who purposely buy fake gear to save money, I'm thinking about the enthusiasts who will pay for the real thing, people like me.
 
I would have preferred to pay £30 to amazon, in order to get the real thing.
 
The whole point is that there are companies out there, not only Sennheiser, who want to give exposure for their products. The need dealers like you to sell them.
 
I have a contact Glenn, who had found a good market for his gear. But the gear he sells is good.
 
http://soundwise.co.uk/
 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=soundwise&x=14&y=24
 
 
As for Sennheiser and AT (audio Technica) I will make phone class, however it will have to wait until next week due to work commitments.
 
The thing is for every counterfeit ...opportunity, there is an opportunity to sell ... other products.
 
I know that people look at price, however it's about competition, and I know that there is competition even in the counterfeit market. I know that everyone is trying to out do everyone else.
 
I have many fakes, and you're right that in looks, some of them are very good. However there is no consistency in fakes. One fake doesn't sound as good as another and none of them sound as good as the original.
 
You obviously have the ... desire to sell. You managed to get hold of the product, you got on ebay and you sold some gear, and made some money no doubt. My visitors are looking for genuine gear.

I will have a word with my contact at Sennheiser, to see what we can do. Of course I can't make any promises. But I'll try.
 
Keep in touch, I'll email you.
 
Anyway now it's time for me to reveal the truth about myself if you don't already know. I hope you won't be too upset, but I run 2 headphone website, but my whole time is now spent with one of them
 
When I started as a student, I started a site called headphonedeals.org later, and with help I launched headphonedeals.com, however, and this is where you come in, I started a site called http://fakeheadphones.com
 
I set up fakeheadphones.com to collate information of the problem of fake headphones on the market. There is a lot of info, and I wanted it all in one place.
 
Then I started to buy headphones genuine and counterfeit, and create a comparison, so that people would be able to tell the difference.
 
I've bought from many people who are selling fakes. I wanted to show people that they needed to stand up to those who were ... defrauding people. I never thought things would go this far, but you are the first person I've approached ask for your help.
 
When I said, people make far more money, helping than trying to rip people off; I hope that could be you. You have insider knowledge, and although I written some hard comments against you, I now ask; will you help us? Will you be our main honest dealer, the one that every visitor [removed] will you be the one to sell genuine headphones to us?
 
But more than that, will you help us to stay away from sellers of fake gear. Will you point out, prices that you 'Know' are wrong? Will you be our (fakeheaphones.com) main dealer/seller?
 
I know you will be angry with me, but I've never been so serious until know in asking for help. I will email my contact at Sennheiser to see if he will help you with the proper distributor route. Every visitor on fakeheadphones.com and my other sites could be a potential customer. Your name will be a good name, a name people will trust if you do the right thing and sell us the right gear.
 
My friend, what do you say? Will you help us?

Before i leave you i have a question. How does the negative feedback affect you in terms of selling on ebay?
 
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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2010, 05:45:19 pm »

O.K. so we got lsmart100 off the Sennheiser CX's but....

however this will take time to set up.

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BTW, these creative ep830's are fake.

As and when we get started, they'll have to go, to build up trust with the fakeheadphones.com visitors. You build trust, you'll get respect and reapeat business. As people buy from you their trust in you will build the business for you!

http://electronics.shop.ebay.com/iPod-MP3-Accessories-/56169/i.html?_catref=1&_fln=1&_ipg=&_ssn=lsmart100&_trksid=p3911.c0.m282

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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2010, 05:12:19 pm »

hey matt, nice progress on the issue. i think i speak for everyone when i say that no one saw this development coming.
i hope you can get a "resident ebay seller" for the site. someone we can buy from without having to match our earphones' grill,housing,plug, and accessories to counterfeit earphones.
this is a noble cause  Wink .

btw i've never owned an amp before(other than my guitar amp Tongue), mainly because i thought that all the low impendance IEMs (the majority of my earphones) that i own dont need an amp. but i started looking around and i'd really love to see a thread about the improvement of SQ of different earphones with some of those wicked little Fiio amps, if you can spare the time.
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2010, 11:28:43 pm »

I'm not sure about the Sennheiser thing yet, but it would be nice to have one ebay seller that we can all trust. However lsmart is working towards another big headphone manufacturer, but he has asked me to keep it under wraps. I hope that lsmart100 and myself can come to an arrangement with some companies that have problems with fake gear, however, one step at a time. lsmart100 is trying to get established with the MP3/MP4 palyers.

http://www.fakeheadphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg1379#msg1379

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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2010, 06:16:25 am »

the player looks nice, i could use a player untill i get a new cell phone.
but it would have to be smaller, more like 3 inch screen, and 16gb. something that can fit in my pocket.
i'd love to test it out.
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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2010, 06:04:31 pm »

the player looks nice, i could use a player untill i get a new cell phone.
but it would have to be smaller, more like 3 inch screen, and 16gb. something that can fit in my pocket.
i'd love to test it out.

i'm hoping to get my hands on one soon. I've just gotta clear this customs charge i got for my Grado SR325i headphones. That's why my Bose IE's are going.

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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2010, 03:02:11 pm »

im planning on getting the new iphone when it comes out probably. depending on price.
i've maxed out my 4GB m2 memory card long ago with songs. i desperatly need more space.
but players i've bought from ebay have usually both low sound quality and they dont really have 16gb like they claim so my files start getting errors after about 6GB.

i'll buy the grado sr60 as soon as i get a more substantial pay check, probably next year. i only go with IEMs outside the house, and thats where i listen to music mostly because of lack of time. so they arent a high priority for me atm
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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2010, 05:20:40 pm »

The SR60's are good headphones, you should enjoy them.
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